proof I've had enough....

[thoreau]

tonight - in SAN FRANCISCO - in the light of Yes on 8's financing, who knocks on my door? MORMON FUCKING MISSIONARIES. "Elder Bradley" and his buddy (curiously not wearing a nametag) didn't get even get a word out of his mouth. I asked him who let him in the building and asked how they had the guts to show their faces in my city after all the money the church has been spending on hate in California. I asked him to leave - that he was trespassing. He told me he was not. I told him - if he didn't leave on his own. I'd call 911 and report him to the police. He said he wasn't trespassing. I picked up the phone and called the building management - and told them a Mormon missionary was trespassing on the property - and harassing me as a tenant. The building management sent up security - and called SFPD as backup.

I walked with the 'missionaries' and the security guard to the elevator. In the elevator "Elder Bradley" tried to talk and I blurted out "shut your fucking mouth - I don't want to hear anything from you." (if I hadn't controlled myself he might have got smacked.) The management company was waiting in the lobby - and walked with me out - and showed them to the door - and gave them a letter reminding the Mormon church that our building is private property. The management company apologized profusely that a missionary had been let in the building. I'm so angry right now I'm shaking. This wasn't a Halloween prank or anything stupid - this was the MORMON CHURCH recruiting in San Francisco. the younger kid that was with "Elder Bradley" was scared pretty bad with my immediate anger reaction - and even more so by the big black mean looking security guard from downstairs that arrived when they wouldn't leave.

I am so wound up with anger and rage over Prop 8 - and this whole election cycle. FUCK. I do not like myself like this - and hate how I reacted. I went from calm to - GETTHEFUCKOUTORI'LLHURTYOU in nanoseconds.

(getting in car and going to spend the night with David in Palo Alto)

Comments

[squalidbear.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry you had to go through that, but thank you for at least showing them that we have feelings too, and grinding our faces in the dirt is not really helping their cause one fucking iota.

Cunts.

[brunorepublic.livejournal.com]

You rule.

[joebehrsandiego.livejournal.com]

The Church thinks it can buy anyone and anything.

Thank you for showing two of them otherwise.

[bibliocub.livejournal.com]

Sorry you had to go through more. But you are fantastic. You are my hero!

[jimmyadventure.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

[greatbearmd.livejournal.com]

My name is Phil and I approve of your actions. Wholeheartedly.

In the same circumstances, I would have done the same. Or more likely worse.

[grizzlyzone.livejournal.com]

I just love it when you get all butch.

Thank you.

[snousle.livejournal.com]

Oh, but what fabulous SNAP you had! I would have paid a dollar just to see it!

[dewittar.livejournal.com]

I'm taking notes for future reference.

Hug Miss Kate and David real close tonight.

[phreddd.livejournal.com]

The thought of a beatdown of a fundie turns me on quite a bit... that said, I'm glad your cooler side prevailed in its place.

[djrottenrobbie.livejournal.com]

I'm so proud of you! You were present with your emotions and you said what you were feeling in the moment. You didn't wait until they had left and regretted not saying what you wanted to. I know it's hard to feel those kinds of negative emotions, but it's ok. We are under attack. Big hugs to you and yours.

[notdefined.livejournal.com]

Thank you Robert. Don't be upset with yourself for the rage, be upset with them for forcing the issue upon you. Now snuggle up with David, relax and let the anger flow out of you and drift away. Big hugs pup.

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

oh man - the negative energy just exploded. I'd had a long week at work - and man - oh man - KABOOM!

but we are under attack. its true.

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

oh I just hate when I react out of anger - I get VERY angry. it's either not on - or TOTALLY _ ITS ON BEYATCH! LOL.

i'm laughing now that we've been to a fabulous italian restaurant and "showered" together. (wink)

ugh. I hate that kind of explosive rollercoaster.

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

thanks? I guess so. I just blew up - angry DO NOT FUCK WITH ME Muffin - is sooooo not pretty.

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

yeah - they got the 'ya know what we do with cunts here' - we throw them to the curb. Bikes and all on the carpet in my apartment buildling. Who the FUCK let them in? I wonder if they picked 2612 randomly or I was the first to open the door. LOL!

[squalidbear.livejournal.com]

Well, gurrlll, they picked the wrong sistah to fuck with, 'm just sayin'

OMG, I've come over all Wesley Snipes! Terribly sorry.

[squalidbear.livejournal.com]

I can just see you... bring IT ON beeyotch, Elder Beeyotch, whatever your stupid Temple nom est...! *snaps*

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

now with 30% more snap!

[althrman.livejournal.com]

I was going to pen a snappy come-back….but I think I will keep my balls instead (G),
Note to self; When going to Roberts house, CALL FIRST.

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

David's best statement was - "finally - you've come up with a reason for me to get a cellphone - so i can call first before showing up at your door."

yeah - my bitchy muffinated response wasn't probably my proudest moment... I totally lost my temper. red faced and talking forcefully and just loud enough to let them know I wasn't fucking around.

:) thanks Dadbear...

[ogam.livejournal.com]

low_fat_muffin,

Here is a link to beastbriskett's original post, and another to a mirrored version on my LJ, of two examples of their violations of tax-exempt status requirement laws, links to the IRS form 3949a for reporting such violations, and relevant, helpful information to fill in on the forms.

I respectfully urge you to help inundate the IRS with a veritable and unignorable tsunami of violation reports so that the Mormon and any other churches doing the same can be held accountable for their crimes. Likewise, should IRS employees choose not to enforce the laws, hold them personally responsible for their failure to do so.

[inbhirnis.livejournal.com]

Good! Good for you!

Perhaps it was an education to Mr. Young Mormon that not everyone has the worldview he's been indoctrinated into.

Did Mr. Old Mormon explain how he got into the building?

[bearfuz.livejournal.com]

I want to know the name of that Italian restaurant that has showers big enough for two! LOL.

Your story just made me SMILE... and to think that thirty years ago I was one of those LDS missionaries...

[bearfuz.livejournal.com]

"Mr. Old Mormon" was probably all of 20 or 21. :-) As for how he got into the building... wouldn't surprise me if he rang someone else's doorbell and then got buzzed in by someone thinking it was... well, who knows! It happens.

I only know this because I did that sort of thing 30 years ago. Yes, I've repented.

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

unfortunately - people "hold the door" for people all the time. it was probabl some grandma who held the door for the nice boys. Ten speed bikes and all....

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

LOL - Osteria is the restaurant and david has an immaculately tiled spa style shower - which says was a installed in a premonition that he'd meet a man that liked having sex in the shower. He says his tiled entry way - was a premonition that that SAME man would have a dog who would require toweling off when it was wet outside.

BRILLIANT!

[inbhirnis.livejournal.com]

Yep - there's a gate to our littlr 6 unit complex, and one owner seems to think it's his personal doorway and leaves it open often - I promptly close it.

[inbhirnis.livejournal.com]

Well - if a fuzzy Mormon like you came to my door, I'd try to convert you myself... ;-)

[septimuswarren.livejournal.com]

Do you know how hot you are when you're angry like this? Woof :) Glad you escorted them out. What a bunch of assholes. The Jehovah Witnesses were by my house today. I wasn't home, thank god, but they left a pamphlet in my door. I think I'll use it as TP.

[ironbark.livejournal.com]

In this country missionaries are supposedly banned, but you can pick them out a mile away. They are white, elderly, neatly and conservatively dressed, black leather shoes, (no-one wears black leather shoes, they are way too hot in this country) often two woman chatting together and walking a few paces behind the man.

All that is missing is the bible under the arm. Sometimes they forget and carry the bible openly.

I've just picked up a new student in my class that has that "i've found the lord" look in his eye, so I am quietly white-anting his beliefs with talks about evolution and creationism.

This is such a lovely peaceful buddhist country that is so accepting and tolerant of diversity and these vicious bigots are just poisoning them.

[budmassey.livejournal.com]

I think your reaction was perfectly rational under the circumstances.

[kbearblog.livejournal.com]

Well Robert I'm glad that you got that out of your system,I hope it was cleansing for your spirit! Perhaps you got through a few layers of brainwashing and give those Mormons something to ponder on. It's sad how preconceived knowledge can make religion such a powerful force.
Hugs.........a few more days and this election madness will be over!

[airporter.livejournal.com]

Anger or no, that was nicely done, sir. Many wouldn't have thought of calling their management to have the "visitors" removed; like me, they'd probably just slam their doors.

I like your method much better. Scare them with righteous anger and truth.

[truthfeather.livejournal.com]

Anger does have it's place, and while it might have been better to not have gone off to quite the extent you did- being assertive about your boundaries and rights was wholly appropriate in the situation, particularly when you had given the "gentleman" a very clear indicator that you were uninterested, and unavailable-He crossed the line by choosing to argue with you. imnsho.

[bruinwi.livejournal.com]

You'll see this echoed in BWM, but here goes:

Granted, you became very angry, but you contained yourself, and had the good sense to feel badly about it later. To an extent, I think you scared yourself. Trouble is, they trespassed, tried to justify it, were escorted from the building while being told they were trespassing, and probably came out of the experience feeling like noble martyrs for the cause.

Your penitence over your acts is what saves you; their self-righteousness is what dooms them.

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

My father had a fierce, almost violent temper - and when I get that way - I feel like I'm channeling him - which disturbs me a lot. My father was a good man - but an old school bigoted sexist. So in channeling him - I become very angry and hateful. (like telling the Mormon to shut his fucking mouth, something I just hate reliving in my memory) - this guy's matteroffactness about his "right" to be in the building. thanks for your comments Mr. Bruin - always appreciated.

[citycraig.livejournal.com]

YAY FOR YOU! YAY FOR YOU!!!! Good job! Thank you for standing up to those bastards. I would have been shaken up and angry too. You handled the situation well!

[bruinwi.livejournal.com]

You're welcome.

Every once in a while, I get it right.

[wrascalbc.livejournal.com]

Wowsers...good for you. I can only recall snapping like that once, when someone threatened to come at me with a gun. Not pretty.

[surewood31.livejournal.com]

Was it a premonition, or did he calculate the odds on dating a man loving shower sex against the odds that he had a dog that needed toweling off as well. MATH, it was MATH I tell ya!

[bearfuz.livejournal.com]

My personal history would certainly have changed drastically had that sort of thing happened when I was 21! :-)

In the interest of full disclosure, though, I was not only too naïve and innocent to interpret sexual overtures, I was also at that age not particularly fuzzy. That is to say that all the fuzz there was was quite covered up, and we were not allowed to have any facial hair. (This is no doubt part of the reason why I've spent the 30 years since then actively growing facial hair and exposing my other fuzzy parts!)

[inbhirnis.livejournal.com]

Well - I'm glad to hear that! :-) We're all in favor of full exposure...

[kenwoodville.livejournal.com]

I don't think you reacted any differently than most people I know...and probably had more restraint than many people I know would have…

[bukephalus.livejournal.com]

Now, come on, Bob -- tell us how you really feel.

Reporting them to security and getting them escorted out -- that's perfect. You're my hero.

[toomanytshirts.livejournal.com]

robert, you know i know how you felt. mine was that field of signs along the road into my neighborhood and not someone standing on my doorstep in a secured building, but 'been there done that'. my reaction in the moment was similar, and my reaction after the fact was too. Anger at myself for letting the anger of the situation to take over, guilt for even feeling it, and frustration for being put in this situation at all because of their bigotry and hatred which is made worse for being espoused in the name of a religion supposedly based on love - all bundled and compacted to the point where the explosion is horrific.

i'm sorry you went thru this too, and i apologize for not having made any comments before on the crap you've taken at work because of the ads.

good thoughts your way. *hugs*

[low-fat-muffin.livejournal.com]

well handsome - the ugly political season (for now) is over tomorrow. goddess bless!

we should meet over coffee sometime - or you could come into town and have dinner with me and David sometime. :) Besides having a high adorability index - I'm sure there is a bright guy I'm eager to get to know better there too. :)

Yes

[vibrantmktplace.livejournal.com]

Good for you... I'm right behind ya.

[cuboz.livejournal.com]

Do you know that reading this, I started shaking with anger too...

How fucking DARE they!!??

*hugs*